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		<description><![CDATA[Is your money safe?  How can you spot bad agents?  Will the law change again? With foreigners able to purchase here for the first time, we look at the biggest issues facing property buyers in Vietnam. For the last decade, Vietnam has been opening its doors to the world.  In that time, McDonalds have opened ...]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><strong>Is your money safe?  How can you spot bad agents?  Will the law change again? With foreigners able to purchase here for the first time, we look at the biggest issues facing property buyers in Vietnam.</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">For the last decade, Vietnam has been opening its doors to the world.  In that time, McDonalds have opened their first branches here, WTO membership has been secured, and foreign tourism – though currently stagnating – has become an integral part of the Vietnamese economy.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">On July 1<sup>st</sup> 2015, another milestone was met: for the first time,<span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="http://blog.vietapartment.com/foreigners-property-and-vietnam-an-introduction/" target="_blank"> <strong><u>foreigners were allowed to buy property</u></strong> </a></span>in Vietnam.  2 months on, a <span style="text-decoration: underline; color: #0000ff;"><strong><a style="color: #0000ff; text-decoration: underline;" href="http://blog.vietapartment.com/saigon-real-estate-market-in-second-quarter-of-2015-report-hot/" target="_blank">steady flow of purchases</a></strong></span> have been welcomed by the industry as a sign the policy will boost a market which has suffered over-capacity in recent years. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">While bottom-line contributions to the economy &#8211; which is still experiencing robust growth &#8211; are the key driver of the changes, there is fervent hope that an <strong>additional benefit</strong> will be felt in improvement of Vietnam’s international business reputation.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Although cross-border trade and exports are healthy, Vietnam still suffers an unwanted reputation for ‘dodgy dealing’ and limited transparency.  Concerns abound that this may discourage foreigners from investing capital in.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">But <strong>what are the realities</strong> of the situation?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 18pt;"><strong>Question time</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">If our inbox is anything to go by, the realities matter far less than suspicions that all <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong><a style="color: #0000ff; text-decoration: underline;" href="http://blog.vietapartment.com/foreigner-and-vietkieu-buy-property-waiting-for-circular-instruction/" target="_blank">is not as it seems</a></strong></span></span>.  Expats resident in Vietnam and buyers overseas have inundated us with questions, laden with concern and cautiousness.  Some have had bad experiences trading on the ground, or dealing with the authorities, while others have simply read horror stories on the internet and <strong>fear the worst</strong>.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The questions have a repetitive ring to them:</span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: 12pt;">“Can I actually buy property, and then sell it afterwards?”</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: 12pt;">“Is it true that I can’t take my money out of Vietnam?”</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: 12pt;">“Are there any safeguards if it all goes wrong? I’ve heard it’s the wild west out there….”</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Simple questions, but – as with any aspect of life in a developing country – the answers <strong>are not always straightforward</strong>.  We’ve tried our best, however, to come up with answers for these and other key points which honestly reflect the situation as it stands.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;"><strong>1.</strong> <strong>“Is it really ownership, or just a lease?”</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><strong>Perception: </strong>Foreigners don’t have the same right to buy as locals, and ‘foreign property ownership’ is effectively just a lease with severe limitations.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><strong>Reality:  </strong>In many media articles and in government output, the allowed ownership term has been described as a ’50 year lease’.  The term ‘lease’ is interchangeable in modern English with ‘rent’, and this is the source of confusion. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The new law does limit the term of ownership to an initial 50 years, with an<span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="http://blog.vietapartment.com/story-of-extension-20-years-after-50-years-ownership-of-foreigner/" target="_blank"> <strong><u>extension of 50 years</u></strong></a></span> allowable after that.  However, this is very different from a ‘lease’, and is in line with neighboring countries like Singapore and Thailand.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">And unlike a lease, if a foreigner buys a property, there is no other ‘owner’ with overall rights to the residence, office etc. The foreigner <strong>owns the property entirely</strong>, just as a Vietnamese person would own it. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The difference between local and foreign ownership is this: after 50 years, or 100 years after extensions, you are compelled to sell the property. You can sell it to whoever is eligible to buy it, and revenue from the sale would be yours. Period.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 14pt;"><strong><span style="font-size: 14pt;">2.</span> “Can I transfer cash out of Vietnam?”</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><strong>Perception</strong>: Getting cash into Vietnam is easy, but banks and the authorities will block any transfer of money out of the country.  They want to keep the money in the country at all costs.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><strong>Reality: </strong>It’s not as quite as easy transferring money from bank to bank in your own country, but it’s pretty straightforward – as long as everything is legal and above board – although exchange rates might prove problematic.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Sending money home from a sale does require a few hurdles to be jumped, but it is a <strong>transparent process</strong> regulated by the State Bank.  They stipulate the procedures to the commercial banks, who are required to check the legality of all money going out of the country.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">We spoke to Techcombank, which is backing some big new projects like <span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong><u><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="http://vinhomescentralparkproject.com/" target="_blank">Vinhomes Central Park</a></u></strong></span> and <span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong><u><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="http://masteri-thaodienapartment.com/" target="_blank">Masteri Thao Dien</a></u></strong></span>, and were told the steps to transferring your cash out following the sale of a property are:</span></p>
<ol>
<li><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><strong>Retain all documentation</strong>, including banking transactions, proving the property you’ve sold is yours and the proceeds are rightfully yours.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Take this, along with ID like passport, Visa and/or resident’s card, to the relevant bank, and fill out the transfer order forms</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The bank then checks your paperwork, and that the amount being transferred <strong>doesn’t exceed the proceeds of the sale</strong>. If it all checks out, they process the transfer.</span></li>
</ol>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">There is one issue which <strong>might cost foreigners to lose some cash</strong> in such a transaction: exchange rates.  By law, all purchases must be in the local currency – Vietnamese Dong (VND).  The buyer is required to transfer the cash into the country in foreign currency, and then convert it to VND prior to purchase.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The reverse then applies after a sale – VND has to be converted back into foreign currency before it can be transferred out.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The big banks offer globally competitive currency exchange fees, and remain a better option than using secondary or ‘black market’ sources, especially for preserving the legality of the sale.  The real question for every buyer and seller – as with any international transaction – is: will global exchange rates help or hinder your profit margin at the end of the day?</span></p>
<p><strong style="font-size: 14pt; line-height: 1.5;">3. &#8220;Are there any agents we can trust?&#8221;</strong></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><strong>Perception: </strong>Everything in Vietnam is about getting quick cash today and not thinking about tomorrow, and it makes vendors impossible to verify.  Can any local agent be trusted?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><strong>Reality: </strong>Sadly, there are too many bad agents out there for this to be entirely in the ‘myth’ category.  But there ARE good ones, and there are ways to find them.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Though there are isolated cases of outright theft in the industry, the biggest issue that all buyers – foreign and domestic – face with disreputable agents is what can be charitably called ‘misdirection’:</span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: 12pt;">assurances that <strong>facilities can be included when they can’t</strong>;</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: 12pt;">promises of lovely views tarnished by the reality of a <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong><a style="color: #0000ff; text-decoration: underline;" href="http://goslapdish.com/2015/08/expat-faces-nightmare-when-buying-an-aparment-i-slaplife/" target="_blank">new adjoining construction</a></strong></span></span>;</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: 12pt;">wildly <strong>overestimating completion</strong> and delivery times; and</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: 12pt;">a complete <strong>lack of transparency</strong> in dealing with problems and questions on every level.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">As agents ourselves, we despair at hearing tales of dodgy dealings.  Most Vietnamese people are honest, and feel genuine anger and embarrassment each time a fellow countryman behaves dishonorably towards an honest foreigner.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><strong>Don’t despair</strong> though – here are some tips on <strong>avoiding the bad guys</strong>:</span></p>
<ol>
<li><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Check their <strong>trade memberships</strong>: the industry as a whole is keen to improve its reputation, and bad agents tend to shy away from its glare by acting alone. Always check whether an agent is part of an association which regulates its membership, such as <span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong><u><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="http://www.horea.org.vn/home/index.php" target="_blank">Ho Chi Minh City Real Estate Association</a></u></strong></span>, the <span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong><u><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="http://hnrea.vn/Web/" target="_blank">Hanoi equivalent</a></u></strong></span>, or the national association, <a href="http://www.vnrea.vn/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong><u>VnRE<span style="color: #0000ff;">A</span></u></strong>.</span></a></span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><strong>Take on two</strong>: want to verify the answers you get from an agent? Speak to a competitor, and compare the information.  If something doesn’t add up, then move on.  It’s a buyer’s market out there, so use this to your benefit.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Ask <strong>lots of questions</strong>: don’t be afraid of asking the most searching queries. If the answer is always “Yes, of course” or a broad, smiley shrug, they’re probably a wrong ‘un: good agents want you to have all the information you ask for, not just tell you what you want to hear.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><strong>Research, research, research</strong>: Found somebody whose website looks great? Ask around about them, whether a friend or an online expat/business community.  Check and <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff; text-decoration: underline;" href="http://blog.vietapartment.com/vietnam-real-estate-market-foreign-investors-should-notice-about-the-noise/" target="_blank">double check every reference you get</a></span></strong></span>, and if they don’t provide them, say goodbye.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><strong>Check the menu</strong>: does an agent keep offering you property in a development you’ve already rejected? If so, go elsewhere.  A good agent is there to help you find the right solution for <em>you</em>, not their mates at a project offering them extra commission, and should have a wide range of options available.</span></li>
</ol>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">We of course can’t guarantee these steps will always lead to a good experience, but they will help.</span></p>
<p><strong style="font-size: 14pt; line-height: 1.5;">4. “Won’t the government change its mind?”</strong></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><strong>Perception:</strong> Vietnam’s communist government lacks transparency, and is prone to sudden changes.  They are pro-foreign money now, but they could well change their policies in a heartbeat.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><strong>Reality: </strong>It’s true that the Vietnamese policy-making machine is far from open and accountable, and remains a mystery to those outside its inner circle.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">However, it’s track record suggests it isn’t prone to knee-jerk changes in big chunks: in fact, quite the opposite.  Big changes happen slowly – too slowly for some – and any major policy shifts which would reduce their standing in international circles (apart from China perhaps) are thought to be seriously unlikely.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Especially so in 2015, when the previous decade has seen the Government double down time and again to increase – not decrease – its entanglements with foreign bodies.  From <strong><span style="color: #0000ff;"><u><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://www.wto.org/english/thewto_e/countries_e/vietnam_e.htm" target="_blank">WTO membership in 2007</a></u></span></strong> right through to the <span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong><u><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="http://moderngolddigital.com/tpp-and-vietnam-what-will-it-mean/" target="_blank">imminent TPP deal</a></u></strong></span>, <strong>international trade ties</strong> are deepening all the time, and any moves – like suddenly changing foreign property laws – would do <strong>lasting harm to these pursuits</strong>.  Details have been amended through subsequent circulars, and further updates are expected, but the core of the legislation is likely to be unmoved for some time.  Foreign ownership is here to stay.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Of course, there is technically the possibility that a big change could occur. But isn’t there also a technical possibility that Canada could declare war on the USA?</span></p>
<p><strong style="font-size: 14pt; line-height: 1.5;">5. “Is it true we can buy property but not land?”</strong></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><strong>Perception:</strong> the law says that while foreigners can buy property, they can’t own land.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><strong>Reality: </strong>Entirely accurate &#8211; but this <strong>goes for all buyers</strong>, not just foreigners.  Officially, the state is the sole owner of all land in the country.</span></p>
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<p><strong><span style="font-size: 14pt;">6. &#8220;Why can we only buy apartments, and in certain areas?&#8221;</span></strong></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><strong>Perception:</strong> Foreigners are corralled into buying in certain districts, and certain types of property.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><strong>Reality: </strong>The law is clear on this: though there are <strong>some restrictions</strong> on the quantities of foreign ownership, individuals retain the right to buy any kind of property, in any part of the country.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The broadest restriction is this: each individual ward (or Phuong) can only allow <span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong><u><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="http://blog.vietapartment.com/foreigners-property-and-vietnam-an-introduction/" target="_blank">250 houses, or 30% of an apartment block</a></u></strong></span>, to be purchased by foreigners.  Currently, there’s plenty of capacity for anyone to buy where they want, and any local authority resisting this faces investigation higher up the food chain, and even by the police.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">There are other caveats yet to be clarified, such as foreign ownership being disallowed in areas owned by the military, but risks around contravening this are minimal.</span></p>
<p><strong style="font-size: 14pt; line-height: 1.5;">7. “Is our investment safe in Vietnam?”</strong></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Barring the acts of criminals, <strong>it’s as safe as it is at home</strong>.  Of course, the value of property can go down as well as up, but the same is true anywhere.  Right now, the market looks positive, and the deepening of US-Viet ties look set to keep it buoyant in the long term.</span></p>
<h3><span style="font-size: 14pt;"><strong>Just the beginning</strong></span></h3>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">So, is it safe for foreigners to buy property in Vietnam?  We think so.  We think it&#8217;s a<strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #0000ff; text-decoration: underline;"> <a style="color: #0000ff; text-decoration: underline;" href="http://blog.vietapartment.com/vietnam-real-estate-market-is-warming-up-in-2015/" target="_blank">good investment</a> </span></span></strong>too, but it&#8217;s important to note that there are hurdles to jump along the way.  These are just some of the issues facing all buyers &#8211; foreign and domestic &#8211; in an emerging market taking its biggest steps to openness in history.  We&#8217;re only 2 months into this &#8216;brave new world&#8217; and some parts are still to settle down and reveal themselves, while other issues are yet to emerge.  When they do, we&#8217;ll let you know about it honestly and objectively.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">It’s important to note that, yes, we are an agency – and we would love to sell you a property <img src="http://blog.vietapartment.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/simple-smile.png" alt=":-)" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> &#8211;  but in addressing these questions, we feel the right thing to do is to give you an honest appraisal based on facts and experience.</span></p>
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